Jordi's Viper Berg

I thought I'd start a thread on here with my build progress and comments so far

Ok, firstly tonight I've swapped out the front uppers for some Ti ones I had left over from my VP Incision chassis, they are shorter than the ones from the BJ4
The rear homemade lowers have been switched to T1E's I've robbed off my boy's T1E Berg, (almost new, he hardly runs it)
The old ones where a touch too short.
I'll measure eye to eye lenghts and post these later.

I've also swapped and played around with the shockmounting on the chassis, mounted under the bracket at the rear and on top at the front..I wasnt happy with the ride height, It just didnt look right, I can tell when it's right, and it's right now..in fact it's so right, I couldnt stop looking at it

This thing will flat out work when I've finished with it, thats guaranteed

Juan, this is a long shot, when the 'e' trays are done, what's the chance of me having two?? (I'll pay for it if need be)

Reason is this, my front gearbox battery mount now longer works, links catch the battery no matter where or how they are fitted, consequently I need to put the battery between the front links

My plan was to use the tray for my 4pks rx at the back , which I still want to do..

Here's a bunch of phone pics I took earlier, sorry they're crappy iphone ones
Bill, you wanted to see how I'd fixed shocks and links at the axle, there should be something here
At full flex, nothing binds and nothing touches....

Oh, nearly forgot, it's a big thing too....all links at the chassis are inboarded...........I've got a good feeling about this, it flexes really well, not too floppy, not too stiff ! First pic is my fav, the stance looks fab!!


































Just need the trays, I can then crack on with the electrics, panels to make, got a few ideas for those in my head already, then time for a shakedown...woohoo

Maybe I'll knock something up temporary for now

Looks nice Martin. I dont understand why yours (shock bodies) are not hitting the cases and mine do. I have included some pics. I also mounted my rear shock tops to the inside of the upper plate. I see your rears are mounted to the outside of the lower brackets, i tried that to. It just seemed like the shocks were laying down alot. I didnt feel comfortable with that.It felt to me like the shocks were reacting to quick. Really floppy. Maybe i could have tuned that out with oil or springs? Different strokes for different folks.

And yes DickyT, i braced between the shocks.

Very nice Martin! I had issues with electronics clearance with the links inboarded, though I was running a punk dig at the time. I may try it when I rebuild mine.

I did get the carbon sanded and sealed today, and the points on the skid ground down.

Glad to hear you got your shocks braced now Bill

Two on the way Martin (as soon as I get them). If anyone else wants a second, let me know.

I'm very interested to see what Bill and Martin work out with the Bergs.

berg looks good jordi ive got about that much rake right now and am thoroughly enjoying it break over swings are great at that angle, as well it "jumps" better that way lol....we have a saying out here in colorado lately lol...jumping is now part of crawling lol....but seriously looks good cant wait till we see what you do with the electronics




ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible

billj wrote:Looks nice Martin. I dont understand why yours (shock bodies) are not hitting the cases and mine do. I have included some pics. I also mounted my rear shock tops to the inside of the upper plate. I see your rears are mounted to the outside of the lower brackets, i tried that to. It just seemed like the shocks were laying down alot. I didnt feel comfortable with that.It felt to me like the shocks were reacting to quick. Really floppy. Maybe i could have tuned that out with oil or springs? Different strokes for different folks.

And yes DickyT, i braced between the shocks.

clocking angle? could be the difference between the shock clearance

flapjack wrote:

ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible

Done Van

C*H*U*D wrote:

flapjack wrote:

ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible

Done Van

thanx

C*H*U*D wrote:Two on the way Martin (as soon as I get them). If anyone else wants a second, let me know.

I'm very interested to see what Bill and Martin work out with the Bergs.

That's great thanks

What's the eta on these please Juan?

Martin, rig is looking good. I'm with Van, I think the difference b/t yours and Bill has to be clocking angle. Are your shocks hitting the limiters before contact?

Tydl wrote:Martin, rig is looking good. I'm with Van, I think the difference b/t yours and Bill has to be clocking angle. Are your shocks hitting the limiters before contact?

My shocks are'nt limited in any way

Front axle isn't clocked

sorry, pic was Bill's that I was looking at, but it makes sense. Don't find any issues with motor not clocked? Thats why you had to space em out at the rear. We know its possible either way now.

When I first built my Berg back in the day, I clocked it, it was ok

It was'nt long before I changed my steering to 86 jeep with the servo over the axle, this only worked with un clocked axles

I havent looked back since!

I then went the whole hog and did the proper 86jeep conversion, I'm convinced it sidehills better with the motor weight down low, never had any issues at all running unclocked

Just about everyone I know has some degree of clocking at the front, I like to be different, it must work, cause I keep beating them

Got the panels done tonight

Damn Martin.....looks awesome

seriously it looks great i love the pointed roof

Jordi, are you still running the uppers inboarded?

Tydl wrote:Jordi, are you still running the uppers inboarded?

Yup, the links are staying inboarded for now

Fxr's going in this weekend
Trays should land soon then I can finish off the electrics and do some testing

Got the esc's in tonight

I ended up hititng the skid with the dremmel, shaved about .5mm off either side of the recess so I could slot them straight in the way I already have them wired up

Made another set of panels too, wasnt quite happy with the others, a few tweaks here and there

I'll be swapping out my rear ally uppers for Ti, got some spare rod left over

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the trays arriving tomorrow, I so want to get this finished off and out on the rocks.

Having to miss a comp this weekend cause I dont think its going to happen



Dammed Atlantic Ocean

Zip ties and duct tape, dont miss a comp

billj wrote:Zip ties and duct tape, dont miss a comp

Pah, duct tape and zip ties

I cant be taking this out half cocked, I want it spot on, a bit of a perfectionist me, get ribbed for having a shiny truck always
As far as I'm concerned, it drives better when it looks good

Besides, a bit of an events clash too, second round of our club trials championship on Sunday only 5 miles from my house, the crawling is nearly a 500mile round trip

If you miss an event can you still be in the running for the championship again? Do you guys drop your worst score?

DickyT wrote:If you miss an event can you still be in the running for the championship again? Do you guys drop your worst score?

Depends on the series, this weekend is 1 of 4 or 5 rounds, you can miss one to qualify, so yes you do drop your worst score

Trays still havent turned up

But at the weekend, when I got back from my Trials comp, I threw caution to the wind, and threw the electrics in so I could have a run on my rockpile.....

Well, I am very very impressed, without any tuning, this rig absolutely performs

It does everything my BJ4 did, and some

I might still run my battery on the gearbox, we shall see, if I do though, I'll be making some new bent top links, at the moment the battery just catches them even on the top hole.

Cant wait to get it properly dialed in........when it is, this truck will be hard to beat I'm sure, just hope the driver can keep his cool too