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Post  jordi555 on Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:01 pm

I thought I'd start a thread on here with my build progress and comments so far

Ok, firstly tonight I've swapped out the front uppers for some Ti ones I had left over from my VP Incision chassis, they are shorter than the ones from the BJ4
The rear homemade lowers have been switched to T1E's I've robbed off my boy's T1E Berg, (almost new, he hardly runs it)
The old ones where a touch too short.
I'll measure eye to eye lenghts and post these later.

I've also swapped and played around with the shockmounting on the chassis, mounted under the bracket at the rear and on top at the front..I wasnt happy with the ride height, It just didnt look right, I can tell when it's right, and it's right now..in fact it's so right, I couldnt stop looking at it Embarassed

This thing will flat out work when I've finished with it, thats guaranteed Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Juan, this is a long shot, when the 'e' trays are done, what's the chance of me having two?? Shocked (I'll pay for it Laughing if need be)

Reason is this, my front gearbox battery mount now longer works, links catch the battery no matter where or how they are fitted, consequently I need to put the battery between the front links

My plan was to use the tray for my 4pks rx at the back , which I still want to do..

Here's a bunch of phone pics I took earlier, sorry they're crappy iphone ones
Bill, you wanted to see how I'd fixed shocks and links at the axle, there should be something here
At full flex, nothing binds and nothing touches.... Cool

Oh, nearly forgot, it's a big thing too....all links at the chassis are inboarded...........I've got a good feeling about this, it flexes really well, not too floppy, not too stiff ! First pic is my fav, the stance looks fab!!


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Just need the trays, I can then crack on with the electrics, panels to make, got a few ideas for those in my head already, then time for a shakedown...woohoo afro

Maybe I'll knock something up temporary for now
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Post  billj on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:43 pm

Looks nice Martin. I dont understand why yours (shock bodies) are not hitting the cases and mine do. I have included some pics. I also mounted my rear shock tops to the inside of the upper plate. I see your rears are mounted to the outside of the lower brackets, i tried that to. It just seemed like the shocks were laying down alot. I didnt feel comfortable with that.It felt to me like the shocks were reacting to quick. Really floppy. Maybe i could have tuned that out with oil or springs? Different strokes for different folks. Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper010Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper009Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper008Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper012-1

And yes DickyT, i braced between the shocks. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

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Post  DickyT on Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:20 pm

Very nice Martin! I had issues with electronics clearance with the links inboarded, though I was running a punk dig at the time. I may try it when I rebuild mine.

I did get the carbon sanded and sealed today, and the points on the skid ground down. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Glad to hear you got your shocks braced now Bill Twisted Evil
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Post  C*H*U*D on Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:53 pm

Two on the way Martin (as soon as I get them). If anyone else wants a second, let me know.

I'm very interested to see what Bill and Martin work out with the Bergs.
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Post  flapjack on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:18 am

berg looks good jordi Jordi's Viper Berg 607128 ive got about that much rake right now and am thoroughly enjoying it Twisted Evil break over swings are great at that angle, as well it "jumps" better that way lol....we have a saying out here in colorado lately lol...jumping is now part of crawling lol....but seriously looks good cant wait till we see what you do with the electronics




ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

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Post  flapjack on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:20 am

billj wrote:Looks nice Martin. I dont understand why yours (shock bodies) are not hitting the cases and mine do. I have included some pics. I also mounted my rear shock tops to the inside of the upper plate. I see your rears are mounted to the outside of the lower brackets, i tried that to. It just seemed like the shocks were laying down alot. I didnt feel comfortable with that.It felt to me like the shocks were reacting to quick. Really floppy. Maybe i could have tuned that out with oil or springs? Different strokes for different folks. Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper010Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper009Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper008Jordi's Viper Berg Carbonfiberviper012-1

And yes DickyT, i braced between the shocks. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128


clocking angle? could be the difference between the shock clearance

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Post  C*H*U*D on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:29 am

flapjack wrote:

ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Done Van Jordi's Viper Berg 607128
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Post  flapjack on Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:42 am

C*H*U*D wrote:
flapjack wrote:

ps. juan 2 would be handy if possible Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Done Van Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

thanx Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

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Post  jordi555 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:27 am

C*H*U*D wrote:Two on the way Martin (as soon as I get them). If anyone else wants a second, let me know.

I'm very interested to see what Bill and Martin work out with the Bergs.

That's great thanks

What's the eta on these please Juan?
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Post  Tydl on Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:19 am

Martin, rig is looking good. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128 I'm with Van, I think the difference b/t yours and Bill has to be clocking angle. Are your shocks hitting the limiters before contact?

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Post  jordi555 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:44 am

Tydl wrote:Martin, rig is looking good. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128 I'm with Van, I think the difference b/t yours and Bill has to be clocking angle. Are your shocks hitting the limiters before contact?


My shocks are'nt limited in any way

Front axle isn't clocked
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Post  Tydl on Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:55 am

sorry, pic was Bill's that I was looking at, but it makes sense. Don't find any issues with motor not clocked? Thats why you had to space em out at the rear. We know its possible either way now. Jordi's Viper Berg 607128
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Post  jordi555 on Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:35 am

When I first built my Berg back in the day, I clocked it, it was ok

It was'nt long before I changed my steering to 86 jeep with the servo over the axle, this only worked with un clocked axles

I havent looked back since!

I then went the whole hog and did the proper 86jeep conversion, I'm convinced it sidehills better with the motor weight down low, never had any issues at all running unclocked Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Just about everyone I know has some degree of clocking at the front, I like to be different, it must work, cause I keep beating them Razz
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Post  jordi555 on Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Got the panels done tonight Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

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Post  C*H*U*D on Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:01 pm

Damn Martin.....looks awesome Jordi's Viper Berg 607128
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Post  flapjack on Sat Feb 19, 2011 12:32 am

seriously it looks great Jordi's Viper Berg 607128 i love the pointed roof Twisted Evil

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Post  Tydl on Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:30 am

Jordi, are you still running the uppers inboarded?
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Post  jordi555 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:06 am

Tydl wrote:Jordi, are you still running the uppers inboarded?

Yup, the links are staying inboarded for now

Fxr's going in this weekend Jordi's Viper Berg 607128
Trays should land soon then I can finish off the electrics and do some testing Cool
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Post  jordi555 on Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:19 pm

Got the esc's in tonight

I ended up hititng the skid with the dremmel, shaved about .5mm off either side of the recess so I could slot them straight in the way I already have them wired up Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

Made another set of panels too, wasnt quite happy with the others, a few tweaks here and there Cool

I'll be swapping out my rear ally uppers for Ti, got some spare rod left over

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Post  jordi555 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 11:28 am

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for the trays arriving tomorrow, I so want to get this finished off and out on the rocks.

Having to miss a comp this weekend cause I dont think its going to happen

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Post  billj on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:41 pm

Zip ties and duct tape, dont miss a comp lol!

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Post  jordi555 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:58 pm

billj wrote:Zip ties and duct tape, dont miss a comp lol!

Pah, duct tape and zip ties Jordi's Viper Berg 901640 Laughing

I cant be taking this out half cocked, I want it spot on, a bit of a perfectionist me, get ribbed for having a shiny truck always
As far as I'm concerned, it drives better when it looks good Laughing

Besides, a bit of an events clash too, second round of our club trials championship on Sunday only 5 miles from my house, the crawling is nearly a 500mile round trip Shocked
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Post  DickyT on Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:12 pm

If you miss an event can you still be in the running for the championship again? Do you guys drop your worst score?
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Post  jordi555 on Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:50 pm

DickyT wrote:If you miss an event can you still be in the running for the championship again? Do you guys drop your worst score?

Depends on the series, this weekend is 1 of 4 or 5 rounds, you can miss one to qualify, so yes you do drop your worst score
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Post  jordi555 on Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:05 am

Trays still havent turned up Crying or Very sad

But at the weekend, when I got back from my Trials comp, I threw caution to the wind, and threw the electrics in so I could have a run on my rockpile.....

Well, I am very very impressed, without any tuning, this rig absolutely performs Jordi's Viper Berg 607128

It does everything my BJ4 did, and some Cool

I might still run my battery on the gearbox, we shall see, if I do though, I'll be making some new bent top links, at the moment the battery just catches them even on the top hole.

Cant wait to get it properly dialed in........when it is, this truck will be hard to beat I'm sure, just hope the driver can keep his cool too Smile
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